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==Status summary==
 
==Status summary==
As of March 12, 2016:
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As of January 16, 2017:
* ''Y Elite'' test for Thomas Rogers descendant pending (kit '''N8S52''', tested previously as kit #197102)
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* ''Y Elite'' test results for Thomas Rogers descendant (kit '''N8S52''', tested previously as kit #197102) completed.
  
==Background==
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==Paper trail==
===Paper trail===
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===First Generation===
''(to be added)''
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i1 Thomas Rogers] was born prob. at Watford, Northampton, England<ref>where his parents lived and where he was married.</ref> about 1572,<ref>Estimate, based on date of marriage.</ref> the son of [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i2 William] and [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i3 Ellenor (_____)] Rogers.<ref>The Genealogist 10:142-43 citing William's will.</ref> Thomas died at Plymouth during the "general sickness" of the first winter (1620-1). He married at Watford 24 Oct 1597<ref>ibid., p. 145</ref> [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i4 Alice Cosford], baptized at Watford 10 May 1573, daughter of [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i5 George] & [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i6 Margaret] Cosford.<ref>ibid., p. 146</ref> It is believed she died in Leiden sometime after 1622.<ref>TAG 52:110-13</ref> Thomas and his son Joseph came over on the ''Mayflower'' in 1620, the other children (but not the mother) are said (by Gov. Bradford) to have "came over & are maried & have many children."
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Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford had five (possibly six) children baptized at Watford: Thomas (died young), (poss.) Richard (died young), Joseph, John, [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Elizabeth]] and [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Margaret]]
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===Second Generation===
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i9 Joseph Rogers] was baptized at Watford 23 Jan 1602/3<ref>TG 10:140</ref> and died at Eastham between 2-15 Jan 1677/8.<ref>Will & Inventory from MD 3:67-70</ref> He was the only child of Thomas to travel with him aboard the ''Mayflower.'' Joseph married sometime abt 1632<ref>First child born in Aug 1633.</ref>. It is believed [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i13 Hannah _____] was his only wife, but there is nothing to state definitively she was the mother of any/all of his children. Joseph had eight children, recorded (but not necessarily born) in the Sandwich, MA Vital Records: [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i14 Sarah] (died young), Joseph, Thomas, [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Elizabeth]], John, [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Mary]], James, and [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Hannah]].
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i10 John Rogers] was baptized at Watford 6 Apr 1606, and died at Duxbury about 1692. He married [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i26 Anna Churchman]. They had four children: [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |(H)Anna]], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i27 John], [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Abigail]] and [[Allied Families (Y-DNA)#ROGERS |Elizabeth]]
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===Third Generation===
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i15 Joseph Rogers (II)] was born 19 Jul 1635 (probably at Duxbury) and died at Eastham 27 Dec 1660. He married Eastham 4 Apr 1660 Susanna Deane. They had no children and his widow married second, 28 Oct 1663 to [[Nicholas Snow (Y-DNA)#Second Generation |Stephen Snow]].
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i20 Thomas Rogers] was born 29 Mar 1638 (probably at Duxbury) and died (probably at Eastham) between 5 Mar 1677/8 - 7 Aug 1678. He married Eastham 13 Dec 1665 [[Mary Kent (mtDNA)#Third Generation |Elizabeth Snow]]. They had seven children: [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i34 Elizabeth], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i35 Joseph], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i36 Hannah], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i37 Thomas] (d. young), [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i38 Thomas], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i39 Eleazer] and [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i40 Nathaniel] (almost certainly never married).
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i22 John Rogers] was born 3 Apr 1642 (probably at Duxbury) and died Eastham between 27 Apr 1713 - 10 Aug 1714. He married Eastham 19 Aug 1669 Elizabeth Twining. They had nine children: [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i53 Samuel] (1671-1671), [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i54 John] (1670-1696 unm.), [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i55 Judah] (son), [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i56 Joseph], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i57 Elizabeth], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i58 Eleazer], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i59 Mehitable], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p2.htm#i60 Hannah] and [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p3.htm#i61 Nathaniel]
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i24 James Rogers] was born Duxbury 18 Oct5 1648 and died Eastham 13 Apr 1678. He married Eastham 11 Jan 1670[/1?] [[Mary Kent (mtDNA)#Fourth Generation|Mary Paine]] and they had three children (born Eastham): [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p3.htm#i81 James] (1673 m Susanna Tracy), Mary (1675) and Abigail (1677/8).
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[https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p1.htm#i27 John Rogers (II)] was born (probably at Duxbury) about 1640 and died Barrington, RI on 28 Jun 1732. He married three times, first Duxbury, Nov 1666 [[Priscilla Mullins (mtDNA)#Second Generation |Elizabeth Pabodie]]. She was the mother of all of his children. He married second Hingham 21 Nov 1679 Hannah Hobart and third aft 22 Mar 1692/3 to Marah Cobham.  By his first wife, John had five children: [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p4.htm#i100 Hannah], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p4.htm#i101 John], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p4.htm#i102 Elizabeth], [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p4.htm#i103 Ruth] and [https://thomasrogerssociety.com/p4.htm#i104 Sarah]
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==DNA Results  '''FT260099'''==
  
 
===Previous Y-DNA testing===
 
===Previous Y-DNA testing===
Previous Y-STR testing through the Rogers DNA Project has identified a Y-STR haplotype for the ''Mayflower'' Rogers lineage and has determined that the lineage belongs to the [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haplogroup_R1b R1b-M269] Y-DNA haplogroup,<ref>http://www.rogersdna.com/geddna/relationship.php</ref> which is quite common in Western Europe. Forthcoming ''Y Elite'' test results will be able to place the place the Rogers lineage more precisely within the broad R1b-M269 clade and identify a number of more recent SNP markers.
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Previous Y-STR testing through the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mayflowersociety?iframe=yresults Mayflower DNA Project], the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rogers.sc.ga.al.tx.nm.ca?iframe=yresults Rogers/Rodgers DNA Project]<ref>Two subgroups of this project list Y-DNA descendants of Pilgrim Thomas Rogers.  One is:  R1b-M269>P312>Z290>L21>DF13>Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FGC59523 (Isles - Keltic) while the other is: R1b-M269>P312>Z290>L21>DF13> Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FT260099 (Isles-Keltic)</ref> and the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/ThomasRogersoftheMayflower?iframe=ycolorized Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower DNA Group]has identified a Y-STR haplotype for the ''Mayflower'' Rogers lineage and has determined that the lineage belongs to the R1b-M269 Y-DNA haplogroup,<ref>http://www.rogersdna.com/geddna/relationship.php</ref>.
  
==Results==
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===NGS/WGS testing===
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One member of the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rogers.sc.ga.al.tx.nm.ca?iframe=yresults My Rogers Family Tree DNA Project]<ref>FTDNA kit #197102</ref> has stated they are a Y-DNA descendant of Pilgrim Thomas Rogers. They also agreed to have a FGC Y-Elite test completed.<ref>Full Genomes Kit #N8S52</ref> In addition, A Y-STR match to this kit<ref>while surname NOT Rogers, they are an exact match to the Rogers kits.</ref> Has presumably taken a FTDNA Big Y test.  The results of these tests documents where the Rogers family falls under: R1b-P312>Z290>L21>DF13>Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FGC59523>FT260099.
  
==Summary of findings==
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===Data downloads===
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* [https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B1ihG_t_s-HAbWJsOWxFS2ZMYjA N8S52 Y Elite] ''BAM file uploaded''
  
==External links==
 
* [http://www.rogersdna.com Rogers DNA Project]
 
* [http://thomasrogerssociety.com Thomas Rogers Society]
 
  
==References==
 
 
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==External links and References==
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* Roser, Susan E., ''Mayflower Increasings From the Files of George Ernest Bowman at the Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants'', Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, Second edition 1995, 1996. pp. 87-90
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* Roser, Susan E., ''Mayflower Passenger References (from contemporary records & scholarly journals)'' [www.stewartbooks.com Stewart Publishing & Printing], Canada. Second Edition, 2015
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* Westgate, Alice W.A. (revised by Ann T. Reeves) (2nd ed. rev. by Peggy M. Baker), ''Mayflower Families Through Five Generations: vol. 19 Rogers'', General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA. Second edition 2013
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* [http://www.rogersdna.com Rogers DNA Project]
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* [http://thomasrogerssociety.com Thomas Rogers Society]
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* ''The Genealogist'' 10 [1989]: 138-49 "The English Ancestry of the Pilgrim Thomas Rogers and His Wife Alice (Cosford) Rogers," by Clifford L. Scott

Latest revision as of 13:32, 22 May 2021

Status summary

As of January 16, 2017:

  • Y Elite test results for Thomas Rogers descendant (kit N8S52, tested previously as kit #197102) completed.

Paper trail

First Generation

Thomas Rogers was born prob. at Watford, Northampton, England[1] about 1572,[2] the son of William and Ellenor (_____) Rogers.[3] Thomas died at Plymouth during the "general sickness" of the first winter (1620-1). He married at Watford 24 Oct 1597[4] Alice Cosford, baptized at Watford 10 May 1573, daughter of George & Margaret Cosford.[5] It is believed she died in Leiden sometime after 1622.[6] Thomas and his son Joseph came over on the Mayflower in 1620, the other children (but not the mother) are said (by Gov. Bradford) to have "came over & are maried & have many children."

Thomas Rogers and Alice Cosford had five (possibly six) children baptized at Watford: Thomas (died young), (poss.) Richard (died young), Joseph, John, Elizabeth and Margaret

Second Generation

Joseph Rogers was baptized at Watford 23 Jan 1602/3[7] and died at Eastham between 2-15 Jan 1677/8.[8] He was the only child of Thomas to travel with him aboard the Mayflower. Joseph married sometime abt 1632[9]. It is believed Hannah _____ was his only wife, but there is nothing to state definitively she was the mother of any/all of his children. Joseph had eight children, recorded (but not necessarily born) in the Sandwich, MA Vital Records: Sarah (died young), Joseph, Thomas, Elizabeth, John, Mary, James, and Hannah.


John Rogers was baptized at Watford 6 Apr 1606, and died at Duxbury about 1692. He married Anna Churchman. They had four children: (H)Anna, John, Abigail and Elizabeth

Third Generation

Joseph Rogers (II) was born 19 Jul 1635 (probably at Duxbury) and died at Eastham 27 Dec 1660. He married Eastham 4 Apr 1660 Susanna Deane. They had no children and his widow married second, 28 Oct 1663 to Stephen Snow.

Thomas Rogers was born 29 Mar 1638 (probably at Duxbury) and died (probably at Eastham) between 5 Mar 1677/8 - 7 Aug 1678. He married Eastham 13 Dec 1665 Elizabeth Snow. They had seven children: Elizabeth, Joseph, Hannah, Thomas (d. young), Thomas, Eleazer and Nathaniel (almost certainly never married).

John Rogers was born 3 Apr 1642 (probably at Duxbury) and died Eastham between 27 Apr 1713 - 10 Aug 1714. He married Eastham 19 Aug 1669 Elizabeth Twining. They had nine children: Samuel (1671-1671), John (1670-1696 unm.), Judah (son), Joseph, Elizabeth, Eleazer, Mehitable, Hannah and Nathaniel

James Rogers was born Duxbury 18 Oct5 1648 and died Eastham 13 Apr 1678. He married Eastham 11 Jan 1670[/1?] Mary Paine and they had three children (born Eastham): James (1673 m Susanna Tracy), Mary (1675) and Abigail (1677/8).


John Rogers (II) was born (probably at Duxbury) about 1640 and died Barrington, RI on 28 Jun 1732. He married three times, first Duxbury, Nov 1666 Elizabeth Pabodie. She was the mother of all of his children. He married second Hingham 21 Nov 1679 Hannah Hobart and third aft 22 Mar 1692/3 to Marah Cobham. By his first wife, John had five children: Hannah, John, Elizabeth, Ruth and Sarah


  1. where his parents lived and where he was married.
  2. Estimate, based on date of marriage.
  3. The Genealogist 10:142-43 citing William's will.
  4. ibid., p. 145
  5. ibid., p. 146
  6. TAG 52:110-13
  7. TG 10:140
  8. Will & Inventory from MD 3:67-70
  9. First child born in Aug 1633.

DNA Results FT260099

Previous Y-DNA testing

Previous Y-STR testing through the Mayflower DNA Project, the Rogers/Rodgers DNA Project[1] and the Thomas Rogers of the Mayflower DNA Grouphas identified a Y-STR haplotype for the Mayflower Rogers lineage and has determined that the lineage belongs to the R1b-M269 Y-DNA haplogroup,[2].

NGS/WGS testing

One member of the My Rogers Family Tree DNA Project[3] has stated they are a Y-DNA descendant of Pilgrim Thomas Rogers. They also agreed to have a FGC Y-Elite test completed.[4] In addition, A Y-STR match to this kit[5] Has presumably taken a FTDNA Big Y test. The results of these tests documents where the Rogers family falls under: R1b-P312>Z290>L21>DF13>Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FGC59523>FT260099.

Data downloads


  1. Two subgroups of this project list Y-DNA descendants of Pilgrim Thomas Rogers. One is: R1b-M269>P312>Z290>L21>DF13>Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FGC59523 (Isles - Keltic) while the other is: R1b-M269>P312>Z290>L21>DF13> Z253>FGC3268>ZZ6_1>BY43439>FGC59524>FGC59535>FT260099 (Isles-Keltic)
  2. http://www.rogersdna.com/geddna/relationship.php
  3. FTDNA kit #197102
  4. Full Genomes Kit #N8S52
  5. while surname NOT Rogers, they are an exact match to the Rogers kits.

External links and References

  • Roser, Susan E., Mayflower Increasings From the Files of George Ernest Bowman at the Massachusetts Society of Mayflower Descendants, Genealogical Publishing Co., Baltimore, MD, Second edition 1995, 1996. pp. 87-90
  • Roser, Susan E., Mayflower Passenger References (from contemporary records & scholarly journals) [www.stewartbooks.com Stewart Publishing & Printing], Canada. Second Edition, 2015
  • Westgate, Alice W.A. (revised by Ann T. Reeves) (2nd ed. rev. by Peggy M. Baker), Mayflower Families Through Five Generations: vol. 19 Rogers, General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA. Second edition 2013
  • Rogers DNA Project
  • Thomas Rogers Society
  • The Genealogist 10 [1989]: 138-49 "The English Ancestry of the Pilgrim Thomas Rogers and His Wife Alice (Cosford) Rogers," by Clifford L. Scott