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==Biography==
 
==Biography==
 
===First Generation===
 
===First Generation===
Moses Simmons is said to have been born 1 Jan 1604 in Leiden, son of William Symonson and Ann Holland and died at Duxbury between 17 Jun 1689 - 15 Sep 1691. He came to New Plimouth Colony in 1621 aboard the ''Fortune.'' He was married about 1632 to Sarah ______. They had seven children: Rebecca, Moses, Mary, John, Sarah, Elizabeth & Aaron.
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Moses Simmons is said to have been born 1 Jan 1604 in Leiden, son of William Symonson and Ann Holland and died at Duxbury between 17 Jun 1689 - 15 Sep 1691. He came to New Plimouth Colony in 1621 aboard the ''Fortune.'' He was married about 1632 to Sarah ______. They had seven children: Rebecca (m. [[Soule (Y-DNA)#Second Generation|John Soule]]), Moses, Mary (m. [[Alden (Y-DNA)#Second Generation|Joseph Alden]]), John, Sarah, Elizabeth & Aaron.
  
 
===Second Generation===
 
===Second Generation===
Moses Simmons (II) was born in Duxbury about 1639 and died there 18 Mar 1676. He married bef 1664 Patience Barstow. They had five children: John, Aaron, Job, Sarah & Patience.
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Moses Simmons (II) was born in Duxbury about 1639 and died there 18 Mar 1676. He married bef 1664 Patience Barstow. They had six children: Moses (never married), John, Sarah, Aaron [https://www.edwarddoty.org/tng/getperson.php?personID=P79620&tree=DOTY Patience] and Job.
  
John Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1644 and died there 9 Feb 1716. He married there 16 Nov 1669 to Mercy Pabodie. They had nine children: John, William, Isaac, Martha, Benjamin, Moses, Joseph. Rebecca & Joshua
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John Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1644 and died there 9 Feb 1716. He married there 16 Nov 1669 to Mercy Pabodie. They had nine children: John, William, Isaac, Martha, Benjamin, Joseph, Rebecca, Joshua and Moses
 
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Aaron Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1653 and died at Scituate 12 Mar 1718. He married at Scituate 24 Dec 1677 Mary Woodworth. They had seven children: Rebecca, Moses, Mary, Ebenezer, Elizabeth, Lydia & Joseph
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===Third Generation===
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Aaron Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1653 and died at Scituate 12 Mar 1718. He married at Scituate 24 Dec 1677 Mary Woodworth. They had seven children: Rebecca, Moses, Mary, Ebenezer, Elizabeth, Lydia & Joseph/Jesse
  
  
 
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==DNA results  ''R1b-M269''==
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==DNA results  ''TBD''<ref>Conflicting information found in the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mayflowersociety?iframe=ycolorized Mayflower DNA Project ] Group: XX - Hopkins, Stephen YDNA/FF Tests has one individual also claiming Moses (Simmons) Symonson as their MDKPA, but their Y-67 STR result was predicted by FTDNA to fall under Haplogroup I-M253. HOWEVER, they are a 65/67 STR match to the Winslow family, so it appears likely a Non-Paternal Event (NPE) occurred.</ref>==
 
===Previous Y-DNA testing===
 
===Previous Y-DNA testing===
According to the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/Southworth-Southard?iframe=yresults Southworth-Southard surname DNA Project] Subgroup SF02 (Southworths from Samlesbury) the Southworth family falls under:
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One individual in the [https://www.familytreedna.com/public/simmons?iframe=ycolorized Simmons Y-Chromosome DNA Surname Project] Group: "Hap'group R1b1a2 - Not matching at a reasonable level in this project - need others to upgrade" stated Moses Simmons was their Most Distant Known Paternal Ancestor (MDKPA). This individual has not done any SNP testing and has only done Y37 STR testing. FTDNA predicted this individual falls into the R1b-M269 Haplogroup and the Nevgen Haplogroup Prediction tool was unable to refine the haplogroup any further.
R-P312>>L21>DF13>Z39589>S1051>S1050>FGC17980>FGC17990>S1057>FGC17983>FGC46958>FT260574>BY39173
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HOWEVER, this individual has a break in their "paper-trail" genealogy and may not be a Y-DNA descendant of Moses Simmons (Symonson).
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===Further needed testing===
 
===Further needed testing===
We need direct male-line Simmons descendants to WGS/NGS test to refine the haplogroup further and delineate descendant clades.
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We need direct male-line Simmons descendants to WGS/NGS test to confirm and further refine the haplogroup placement.
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==References & External Links==
 
==References & External Links==
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* Anderson, Robert Charles, ''The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633'' vol. 3, P-W. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA. 1995
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* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moses_Simonson wikipedia article on Moses Simonson]
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* [https://www.plimoth.org/sites/default/files/media/pdf/simonson_moses.pdf A Genealogical Profile of Moses Simonson (plimouth.org)]
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* [http://edlers.org/pers/AP/18symo.pdf Descendancy of Moses Symonson (b c1601) and Sarah]

Revision as of 11:17, 1 December 2020

Status summary

Completed as of October 29, 2020:

  • Recruiting additional direct male-line Moses Simmons descendants for NGS/WGS SNP testing - anyone interested in submitting their DNA for testing should contact Raymond T. Wing (email: wing.genealogist AT gmail DOT com)

Still to do as of October 29, 2020

  • NGS/WGS test multiple Simmons descendants to firmly place family clade as well as discover any subclades unique to descendants lines


Biography

First Generation

Moses Simmons is said to have been born 1 Jan 1604 in Leiden, son of William Symonson and Ann Holland and died at Duxbury between 17 Jun 1689 - 15 Sep 1691. He came to New Plimouth Colony in 1621 aboard the Fortune. He was married about 1632 to Sarah ______. They had seven children: Rebecca (m. John Soule), Moses, Mary (m. Joseph Alden), John, Sarah, Elizabeth & Aaron.

Second Generation

Moses Simmons (II) was born in Duxbury about 1639 and died there 18 Mar 1676. He married bef 1664 Patience Barstow. They had six children: Moses (never married), John, Sarah, Aaron Patience and Job.

John Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1644 and died there 9 Feb 1716. He married there 16 Nov 1669 to Mercy Pabodie. They had nine children: John, William, Isaac, Martha, Benjamin, Joseph, Rebecca, Joshua and Moses

Aaron Simmons was born in Duxbury about 1653 and died at Scituate 12 Mar 1718. He married at Scituate 24 Dec 1677 Mary Woodworth. They had seven children: Rebecca, Moses, Mary, Ebenezer, Elizabeth, Lydia & Joseph/Jesse



DNA results TBD[1]

Previous Y-DNA testing

One individual in the Simmons Y-Chromosome DNA Surname Project Group: "Hap'group R1b1a2 - Not matching at a reasonable level in this project - need others to upgrade" stated Moses Simmons was their Most Distant Known Paternal Ancestor (MDKPA). This individual has not done any SNP testing and has only done Y37 STR testing. FTDNA predicted this individual falls into the R1b-M269 Haplogroup and the Nevgen Haplogroup Prediction tool was unable to refine the haplogroup any further.

HOWEVER, this individual has a break in their "paper-trail" genealogy and may not be a Y-DNA descendant of Moses Simmons (Symonson).


Further needed testing

We need direct male-line Simmons descendants to WGS/NGS test to confirm and further refine the haplogroup placement.

  1. Conflicting information found in the Mayflower DNA Project Group: XX - Hopkins, Stephen YDNA/FF Tests has one individual also claiming Moses (Simmons) Symonson as their MDKPA, but their Y-67 STR result was predicted by FTDNA to fall under Haplogroup I-M253. HOWEVER, they are a 65/67 STR match to the Winslow family, so it appears likely a Non-Paternal Event (NPE) occurred.

References & External Links

  • Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633 vol. 3, P-W. New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA. 1995