Ramsden (Y-DNA)

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Status summary

Completed as of January 31, 2022:

  • Page created for descendants of Joseph Ramsden (surname later morphed into Ramsdell)
  • Patrilineal (all male line) descendants of Joseph Ramsden are encouraged to NGS/WGS test. Any male who believes they are such a descendant should Read me First

IMPORTANT: Read me First

Biography

For more information see Van Antwerp, Lee Douglas, revised by Robert S. Wakefield, Mayflower Families through Five Generations vol. 9 Eaton General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA 1996

First Generation

Joseph Ramsden died in Lakenham (Plymouth, now No. Carver) 25 May 1674. He married twice, first Plymouth 2 Mar 1646 Rachel Eaton and second 16 Oct 1661 Mary Savory (no Mayflower connection). Joseph and his first wife had one child (Plymouth): Daniel (1649)

Second Generation

Daniel Ramsden was born Plymouth 14 Sep 1649 and died there bef 12 Mar 1722. He married twice, first wife name not known and second Taunton abt 1689 Hannah Caswell. By his first wife he had two children: Mary (c1675) and Thomas (b1677). By his second wife he had four more children (Plymouth): Samuel (1690), Joseph (1693), Benjamin (1699 no further record) and Hannah (1700).

Third Generation

Thomas Ramsden (later Ramsdell) was born Plymouth bef 1677 and died Hanover 16 Sep 1727. He married 23 Mar 1703 Sarah (poss. Alverson) and they had at least nine children: Thomas (c1704), Sarah (1706), Joseph (1708), Jemima (1710), Gideon (1712), Sarah (1715), Mercy (1717), Lydia (1719), David (1721 unm.) and Grace (1725).

Samuel Ramsden was born Plymouth 5 Jun 1690 and died Pembroke Nov 1759. He married twice, first Scituate 24 Dec 1712 Martha Bowker and second Pembroke 20 Aug 1750 Annah HANKS Norris (no children). By his first wife he had four children (surnamed Ramsdell): Samuel (1714), Mary (1716), Content (bp 1720 not in father's will) and Susanna (1721).

Joseph Ramsden (later Ramsdell) was born Plymouth 16 Aug 1693 and died bef Nov 1770. He married Scituate 10 Dec 1718 Mary Bowker and they had six children: Joseph (1719), Benjamin (1721), Daniel (1723 m Mary Dillingham but prob. no ch.), Simeon (1726), Nathaniel (1730) and Nehemiah (1734).

Fourth Generation

Thomas Ramsden (II) was born ca 1704 and died ca 1787. He married Middleborough 2 Nov 1732 Mary Peirce and they had five children: Hannah (1733), Lydia (1737), John (1741), Job (1743) and Seth.

Joseph Ramsden was born Pembroke 29 May 1708 and died Hanover 24 Aug 1788. He married twice, first Hanover 23 Apr 1730 Mary Homer and second Hanover 25 Nov 1755 Mercy DELANO Prior[1] (descended from Henry Samson). By his first wife he had nine children: Mary (1730), Avis (1732-1740), Priscilla (1734), Thomas (bp1736-1757 unm.), Joseph (1739-1740), Japhet (1745-1750) and Sarah (1749). By his second wife he had two more children: Marcy (1757) and Lydia (1759).

Gideon Ramsden was born Scituate 13 Sep 1712 and died Abington 28 Feb 1795. He married thrice, first Hanover 24 Jun 1736 Sarah Farrington, second Marshfield 3 Sep 1755 Abigail Eames and last Abington 11 Sep 1766 Ruth ____ Palmer. By his first wife he had seven children: Sarah (1736/7), John (1738), Content (1741), Gideon (1744), David (1746), Job (1748) and Micah (1751). By his second wife he had two children: Thomas and Abigail. By his third wife he had two children: Deborah (1767) and Noah (1770).


Samuel Ramsden (II) was born Pembroke 4 Jun 1714 and died there 28 Mar 1801. He married Pembroke 26 Jan 1743/4 Dorothy Bishop and they had eight children: Content (1744 d.y.), Samuel (1746), Elizabeth (1747), Gershom (1750), Martha (1754), Content (1755), Abigail (1757) and John (1759).


Joseph Ramsden (II) was born Pembroke 22 Sep 1719 and died Hanover 27 Oct 1778. He married twice, first Pembroke 30 Dec 1741 Mary Dawes and then Hanover 1 Jan 1767 Mercy MORSE Bates (no ch.). By his first wife he had ten children: John (1742-1743), Hannah (1744), Lydia (1745/6), Lot (1747/8), Lois (1750), Simeon (1752), Olive (1754?), Mary (1758), Ruth (1761) and Joseph Dawes (1764).

Benjamin Ramsden was born Pembroke 1 Oct 1721 and died Hanover 5 Oct 1804. He married Pembroke 8 Dec 1743 Lusanna Bishop and they had six children: Benjamin (1744), Lusanna (1746), Deborah (1748), Content (1752), Edmond (1754) and Charles (1756).

Simeon Ramsden was born Pembroke 24 Dec 1726 and died there 13 Oct 1799. He married twice, first 9 Jun 1757 Mary Turner then Pemroke 18 Jul 1790 Sarah Turner (no ch.) By his first wife he had four children: John Stockbridge (bp1758), Mercy Munro (bp1760) Abner Turner (bp 1765) and Ann Stockbridge.

Nathaniel Ramsden was born Pembroke 30 Mar 1730 and died bef. 6 Dec 1762. He married (E.) Bridgewater 10 Jan 1763 Mary Pratt and they had five children: Daniel (1754), Matthew (1756), James (1758), Joseph (1761) and Margaret.

Nehemiah Ramsden was born Hanover 13 Nov 1734 and died Harvard 30 Sep 1800. He married Pembroke 29 Dec 1757 Rebecca Chamberelain and they had nine children: Freedom (bp1759), Nehemiah (bp1761), Nathaniel (bp1763), Seth (bp1768), Bartlett (bp1771), Rebecca (bp1771), Ezekiel (bp1772), Betty (bp1775) and Nabby (bp1779).

DNA results TBD

Current testing results

The Ramsdell DNA Project subgroup R-M269 currently lists one individual claiming their Most Distant Known Paternal Ancestor (MDKPA) was Joseph Ramsden (1620-1674). This individual has not SNP tested but has taken 111 STR markers. FTDNA predicts he falls under R1b-M269. Plugging in his 111 STR results into the NavGen Haplogroup Predictor tool comes up with a most likely haplogroup of R1b U152>L2>DF103>FGC4166 with a 65% likelihood and the second most likely haplogroup of R1b L21>>ZZ10>Z253>Z2186>L1066 with a 24% likelihood.

NGS/WGS testing

A NGS/WGS test would confirm and further refine the placement of this family.


References & External Links

  • Van Antwerp, Lee Douglas, revised by Robert S. Wakefield, Mayflower Families through Five Generations vol. 9 Eaton General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA 1996
  • Widow of John Prior.