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Deborah was apparently born before the 1627 Cattle division.<ref>(unless sister Damaris was still living)</ref> She married (Plymouth 23 Apr 1646) Andrew Ring and she died after 1659.<ref>birth of last child</ref> They had three sons and four daughters (Elizabeth, Mary, Susanna & Deborah)
 
Deborah was apparently born before the 1627 Cattle division.<ref>(unless sister Damaris was still living)</ref> She married (Plymouth 23 Apr 1646) Andrew Ring and she died after 1659.<ref>birth of last child</ref> They had three sons and four daughters (Elizabeth, Mary, Susanna & Deborah)
  
Damaris (second of the name) was almost certainly born after the 1627 Cattle division. She married (Plymouth after 10 Jun 1646) John Cooke. She died there before Nov 1669.<ref>widow remarried</ref> They had three sons and five daughters (Elizabeth, Rebecca, Mary, Martha & Ruth)
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Damaris (second of the name) was almost certainly born after the 1627 Cattle division. She married (Plymouth after 10 Jun 1646) John Cooke. She died there before Nov 1669.<ref>widow remarried</ref> They had three sons and five daughters (Elizabeth, Rebecca (died young), Mary, Martha & Ruth)
  
 
Ruth (c1630) died unmarried sometime between Nov 1644 and Jun 1651.
 
Ruth (c1630) died unmarried sometime between Nov 1644 and Jun 1651.
  
 
Elizabeth (c1632) also apparently never married. Her estate was appraised on 6 Oct 1659 "in case Elizabeth Hopkins do come no more."<ref>MD 4:114-119</ref>
 
Elizabeth (c1632) also apparently never married. Her estate was appraised on 6 Oct 1659 "in case Elizabeth Hopkins do come no more."<ref>MD 4:114-119</ref>
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THIRD GENERATION
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Elizabeth Ring was born at Plymouth 19 Apr 1652 and died at Eastham in 1691. She married William Mayo. They had two sons and three daughters (Thankful, Hannah & Deborah) Thankful only had sons and Deborah never married, so the mtDNA line only comes down from Hannah.
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Mary Ring was born at Plymouth in 1657 and died at Middleborough 31 Oct 1731. She married John Morton. They had three sons and four daughters (Mary, Hannah, Deborah & Persis). However, none of these daughters had any maternal granddaughters, so no mtDNA line.
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Susanna Ring was born at Plymouth about 1658. She is not known to have married.
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Deborah Ring was born at Plymouth about 1659. She married Samuel Cole, but only had one son, so no mtDNA descendants.
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Elizabeth Cooke was born at Plymouth 18 Jan 1648 and died there 21 Nov 1692. She married John Doty (son of Mayflower Passenger Edward Doty). They had seven sons & two daughters (Elizabeth & Martha)
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Mary Cooke was born at Plymouth 12 Jan 1657/8. She married John Rickard.<ref>There were two contemporary John Rickards who both had wives named Mary.</ref>
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Martha Cooke was born at Plymouth 16 Mar 1659 and died at Plympton 17 Sep 1722. She married Elkanah Cushman and they had three sons and three daughters (Elizabeth (no children), Martha (no daughters) & Mehitable (never married)). Thus no mtDNA descendants from Martha.
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Ruth Cooke was born at Plymouth 17 Jan 1664/5 and died at Kingston 10 Apr 1734. She is said to have married Helkiah Tinkham<ref> Not currently accepted by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. mtDNA testing may possibly help resolve this issue.</ref> They had six sons and three daughters (Mary, Sarah (never married) and Ruth (only had one son)). Thus her mtDNA line is only carried down through daughter Mary.
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In conclusion, there are only three proven maternal granddaughters of Elizabeth Fisher who may still have living mtDNA descendants (Hannah Mayo, Elizabeth Doty and Martha Doty). There are other possible maternal granddaughters (through Mary Cooke and Ruth Cooke) who may also have living mtDNA descendants. mtDNA testing may be able to disprove Martha Cooke married Elkanah Cushman (if mtDNA descendants of this line don't match the known mtDNA of Elizabeth (Fisher) Hopkins). In addition, mtDNA testing may be able to tell which John Rickards married Mary Cooke.
  
  

Revision as of 12:20, 25 October 2018

Status summary

As of August 30, 2018

  • Page created for Elizabeth Fisher, second wife of Stephen Hopkins
  • recruitment of individuals who are mtDNA descendants of Elizabeth (Fisher) Hopkins. Folks who are mtDNA descendants are encouraged to contact Raymond T. Wing (email: wing.genealogist AT gmail DOT com)

Background

Biography

The General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD) accepts the marriage recorded in the Parish register, St Mary Matfellon, Whitechapel, of Stephen Hopkins to Elizabeth Fisher on 19 Feb 1617[/18] as the second marriage of Pilgrim Stephen Hopkins.[1]. Her parentage and ancestry has not been discovered to date. The couple were on the Mayflower, along with their daughter Damaris and two children from Stephen's first marriage (to Mary): Constance & Giles. The family remained in the original New Plimouth settlement, where Elizabeth is said to have died sometime around 1642.[2]

  1. [https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/1624/31280_194813-00091/658774?backurl=https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/152039210/person/262016416484/facts/citation/822019777150/edit/record Parish register
  2. She was not mentioned in her husband's will, dated 6 Jun 1644, so is believed to have died before that date. A date of death for Elizabeth of 4 Feb 1639 has been proposed, but it is currently unknown (to this compiler) where this date came from.

mtDNA Results

We are currently looking for volunteers who are matrilineal descendants of Elizabeth to take a full mtDNA test.

mtDNA Descendants

FIRST GENERATION

Elizabeth & Stephen had two sons and five daughters.


SECOND GENERATION

Damaris (c1618) was likely still alive in the 1623 Land division (as her father's company received six shares), but likely was not enumerated in the 1627 Cattle division. A younger sister was named after her, so she died young.

Deborah was apparently born before the 1627 Cattle division.[1] She married (Plymouth 23 Apr 1646) Andrew Ring and she died after 1659.[2] They had three sons and four daughters (Elizabeth, Mary, Susanna & Deborah)

Damaris (second of the name) was almost certainly born after the 1627 Cattle division. She married (Plymouth after 10 Jun 1646) John Cooke. She died there before Nov 1669.[3] They had three sons and five daughters (Elizabeth, Rebecca (died young), Mary, Martha & Ruth)

Ruth (c1630) died unmarried sometime between Nov 1644 and Jun 1651.

Elizabeth (c1632) also apparently never married. Her estate was appraised on 6 Oct 1659 "in case Elizabeth Hopkins do come no more."[4]


THIRD GENERATION

Elizabeth Ring was born at Plymouth 19 Apr 1652 and died at Eastham in 1691. She married William Mayo. They had two sons and three daughters (Thankful, Hannah & Deborah) Thankful only had sons and Deborah never married, so the mtDNA line only comes down from Hannah.

Mary Ring was born at Plymouth in 1657 and died at Middleborough 31 Oct 1731. She married John Morton. They had three sons and four daughters (Mary, Hannah, Deborah & Persis). However, none of these daughters had any maternal granddaughters, so no mtDNA line.

Susanna Ring was born at Plymouth about 1658. She is not known to have married.

Deborah Ring was born at Plymouth about 1659. She married Samuel Cole, but only had one son, so no mtDNA descendants.


Elizabeth Cooke was born at Plymouth 18 Jan 1648 and died there 21 Nov 1692. She married John Doty (son of Mayflower Passenger Edward Doty). They had seven sons & two daughters (Elizabeth & Martha)

Mary Cooke was born at Plymouth 12 Jan 1657/8. She married John Rickard.[5]

Martha Cooke was born at Plymouth 16 Mar 1659 and died at Plympton 17 Sep 1722. She married Elkanah Cushman and they had three sons and three daughters (Elizabeth (no children), Martha (no daughters) & Mehitable (never married)). Thus no mtDNA descendants from Martha.

Ruth Cooke was born at Plymouth 17 Jan 1664/5 and died at Kingston 10 Apr 1734. She is said to have married Helkiah Tinkham[6] They had six sons and three daughters (Mary, Sarah (never married) and Ruth (only had one son)). Thus her mtDNA line is only carried down through daughter Mary.


In conclusion, there are only three proven maternal granddaughters of Elizabeth Fisher who may still have living mtDNA descendants (Hannah Mayo, Elizabeth Doty and Martha Doty). There are other possible maternal granddaughters (through Mary Cooke and Ruth Cooke) who may also have living mtDNA descendants. mtDNA testing may be able to disprove Martha Cooke married Elkanah Cushman (if mtDNA descendants of this line don't match the known mtDNA of Elizabeth (Fisher) Hopkins). In addition, mtDNA testing may be able to tell which John Rickards married Mary Cooke.


  1. (unless sister Damaris was still living)
  2. birth of last child
  3. widow remarried
  4. MD 4:114-119
  5. There were two contemporary John Rickards who both had wives named Mary.
  6. Not currently accepted by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. mtDNA testing may possibly help resolve this issue.

External Links

Caleb Johnson's Mayflower History blog

Pilgrim Hopkins Heritage Society History page

Wikipedia article on Stephen Hopkins

General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD)

Family Tree DNA Mayflower Project mtDNA results

mtDNA tree for Elizabeth (work in Progress)