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See [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Burne-69 WikiTree profile for Thomas Burne] for ''possible'' identity of Thomas Bourne and his wife Elizabeth.
 
See [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Burne-69 WikiTree profile for Thomas Burne] for ''possible'' identity of Thomas Bourne and his wife Elizabeth.
 
===First Generation===
 
===First Generation===
As is all too common regarding female ancestors, not much is known about Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Bourne.<ref>The only contemporary record for Elizabeth is the Marshfield record of her death. As such, it is possible she may not have been Thomas' only wife, and may not be the mother of his children (or at least some of them).</ref> We do not know the names of her parents, her maiden name<ref>It is ''possible'' she may have been the Elizabeth Fisher who married St Alkmund, Derby, Derbyshire in 1607 to Thomas Burne.</ref> or when/where she was born (although we can make educated guesses about her origins). She was presumably born in England and likely say 1590 (estimate based on the estimated births of her children). Elizabeth died Marshfield 18 Jul 1660.<ref>The only known record for her.</ref> She and Thomas Bourne were married about 1607 presumably in England (based on the estimated birth dates of their children).<ref>See [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bourne-2 WikiTree profile for Thomas Bourne for a '''possible''' identification of Thomas and his wife, based on the names of their children.</ref> The first known record of the family is a land grant at Plymouth in Jan 1637. Therefor, it appears at least some of the family arrived by 1636.
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As is all too common regarding female ancestors, not much is known about Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Bourne.<ref>The only contemporary record for Elizabeth is the Marshfield record of her death. As such, it is possible she may not have been Thomas' only wife, and may not be the mother of his children (or at least some of them).</ref> We do not know the names of her parents, her maiden name<ref>It is ''possible'' she may have been the Elizabeth Fisher who [https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJHW-HJS married] St Alkmund, Derby, Derbyshire 21 Dec 1607 to Thomas Burne.</ref> or when/where she was born (although we can make educated guesses about her origins). She was presumably born in England and likely say 1590 (estimate based on the estimated births of her children). Elizabeth died Marshfield 18 Jul 1660.<ref>The only known record for her.</ref> She and Thomas Bourne were married about 1607 presumably in England (based on the estimated birth dates of their children).<ref>See [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bourne-2 WikiTree profile for Thomas Bourne for a '''possible''' identification of Thomas and his wife, based on the names of their children.</ref> The first known record of the family is a land grant at Plymouth in Jan 1637. Therefor, it appears at least some of the family arrived by 1636.
  
 
Thomas and Elizabeth had ''at least'' five children (all later found in Plymouth Colony): Margaret (c1608), Elizabeth (c1617), Ann(/Sarah) (c1619), John (c1621), and Martha.
 
Thomas and Elizabeth had ''at least'' five children (all later found in Plymouth Colony): Margaret (c1608), Elizabeth (c1617), Ann(/Sarah) (c1619), John (c1621), and Martha.

Revision as of 15:59, 11 June 2022

Status summary

Completed as of October 6, 2021:

  • Recruiting matrilineal (direct female-line) Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Bourne descendants for full mtDNA testing - anyone interested in submitting their DNA for testing should contact MayflowerDNA1620@gmail.com

Biography

See WikiTree profile for Thomas Burne for possible identity of Thomas Bourne and his wife Elizabeth.

First Generation

As is all too common regarding female ancestors, not much is known about Elizabeth, wife of Thomas Bourne.[1] We do not know the names of her parents, her maiden name[2] or when/where she was born (although we can make educated guesses about her origins). She was presumably born in England and likely say 1590 (estimate based on the estimated births of her children). Elizabeth died Marshfield 18 Jul 1660.[3] She and Thomas Bourne were married about 1607 presumably in England (based on the estimated birth dates of their children).[4] The first known record of the family is a land grant at Plymouth in Jan 1637. Therefor, it appears at least some of the family arrived by 1636.

Thomas and Elizabeth had at least five children (all later found in Plymouth Colony): Margaret (c1608), Elizabeth (c1617), Ann(/Sarah) (c1619), John (c1621), and Martha.

Second Generation

Margaret Bourne is said to have been born about 1608[5] She died Marshfield 28 Sep 1683 and was then called aged 75. Margaret married Josiah Winslow presumably in Plymouth about 1637[6] and they had six children (Marshfield): Jonathan (1638), Margaret (1640), Rebecca (1643), Hannah (1644), Mary (c1646) and Martha (c1648).

Elizabeth Bourne was born about 1615[7] and died Marshfield 12 Dec 1663. She was married twice, first Plymouth 11 Dec 1638 Robert Waterman and second Marshfield about 1653 Thomas Tilden. By her first husband, Elizabeth had four children (Marshfield): John (1642), Thomas (1644), Joseph (c1647) and Robert (c1652). By her second husband, Elizabeth had three more children (Marshfield): infant son (1654-1654), infant son (1655-1655) and Lydia (1658).

Ann Bourne[8] was born circa 1617[9] and died likely at Norwich, CT aft 12 Jan 1684. She married Plymouth 21 Jan 1639/40 Nehemiah Smith The family later moved to New Haven (later part of Connecticut) and then Norwich, CT.[10] Nehemiah and Elizabeth had nine children: Elizabeth (c1640), Sarah (c1641), Mary (c1643), Hannah (c1644), Mercy (bp 1645/6), Nehemiah (bp 1646), Lydia (c1647), Ann and Mehitable (1655).[11]

Martha Bourne was born about 1619[12] and died Norwich, CT between 20 Feb 1679/80 and 1683. She married twice, first before 1650 John Bradford and second, Norwich about 1679 Thomas Tracy. It appears Martha did not have any children by either of her husbands.

Third Generation

Margaret Winslow was born Marshfield 16 Jul 1640 and died Yarmouth 26 Oct 1698. She married Marshfield 24 Dec 1659 John Miller and they had ten children (Yarmouth): Lydia (1661), Rebecca (1663), Hannah (1666), Margaret (1668), Mehitable (1670), John (1673-1678), Margery (2 Mar 1674/5, likely never marr.), Susanah (1677), Josiah (1679) and John (1681).

Rebecca Winslow was born Marshfield 15 Jul 1643 and died Yarmouth 15 Jul 1683. She married Marshfield 6 Nov 1661 (Col.) John Thacher and they had six children (Yarmouth): Peter (1665), Josiah (1667), Rebecca (1669), Bethiah (1671), Elizabeth (1672/3) and John (1674).

Hannah Winslow was born Marshfield 30 Nov 1644 and died Plymouth 1 Mar 1708/9. She married twice, first Marshfield 5 Apr 1664 William Crow(e) and second, Plymouth 1 Apr 1684 John Sturtevant. By her first husband, she had one child (Scituate): John (c1676). By her second husband she had one more child (Plymouth): Hannah (1687).

Mary Winslow was born Marshfield about 1646 and died Norwich, CT 31 Jul 1721. She married Wethersfield, CT 17 Jun 1670 (Capt.) John Tracy and they had seven children: Josiah (1671), John (1673), Eli (1675), Elizabeth (1676), Joseph (1682), Thomas (1684) and Winslow (1689).

(prob. NOT!)[13] Martha Winslow was born Marshfield about 1648


Lydia Tilden was born Marshfield 26 Apr 1658 and died Plymouth 17 Sep 1740. She married Taunton 14 Jun 1680 Samuel Rider (Ryder) and they had twelve children: Hannah (1680), Sarah (1682), William (1684), Lydia (1686), Samuel (1688), Elizabeth (1690), Joseph (1691), Benjamin (1693), Mary (1694), Elizabeth (1696), Josiah (1696) and Abigail (1700 unk. if marr.)


Elizabeth Smith was born about 1641 (baptized with sister Mercy at New Haven 22 Feb 1645) and died New London, CT 1 May 1711. She married twice, first New London 10 May 1659 Joshua Raymond and second, New London 26 Jan 1681 George Dennis. By her first husband Elizabeth had nine children: Joshua (1660), Elizabeth (1662, likely d.y.), Ann (1664), Martha (c1666), Hannah (1668), Richard (1670-1670), Mary (1672), Experience (1674-1689) and Mehitabel (1675-1677). By her second husband Elizabeth had one more child: Ebenezer (1682).

Sarah Smith was baptized at New Haven (now part of Connecticut) 14 Dec 1645. As neither she nor any of her children were mentioned in the will of her sister, Mary (Smith) Raymond, it is believed she never married, and likely died young.

Mary Smith was baptized at New Haven 14 Dec 1645 and died Norwich, CT about May 1705. She married about 1670 Samuel Raymond but they never had any children. She mentioned the following in her will: brother Nehemiah, sister Elizabeth Dennis, Ebenezer Dennis and cousin Hannah Avery; sister Mehitable Abell (deceased), Ann Abell, Martha Abell; children of cousin Ann Bradford (deceased) tenn shillings each only to James Bradford twenty shillings; cousin Mary Chandler; cousin Elizabeth Avery, dau of cousin Martha Ransford (deceased).

Hannah Smith was baptized at New Haven 14 Dec 1645. As neither she nor any of her children were mentioned in the will of her sister, Mary (Smith) Raymond, it is believed she never married, and likely died young.

Mercy Smith was baptized at New Haven 22 Feb 1645 (with her apparently eldest sister Elizabeth). As neither she nor any of her children were mentioned in the will of her sister, Mary (Smith) Raymond, it is believed she never married, and likely died young.

Lydia Smith was born about 1647 and was apparently living as late as 1680, but was not named in the will of her sister. She either never married, or never had any (surviving) children.

(poss.) Ann Smith. As neither she nor any of her children were mentioned in the will of her sister, Mary (Smith) Raymond, it is believed she never married, and likely died young.

Mehitable Smith was born Marshfield 4 Jul 1655 and died Norwich, CT 14 Mar 1684. She married Norwich 1 Nov 1677 Joshua Abell and they had four children: infant (1678-1678), Nehemiah (1679-1679), Anne (1681) and Martha (1683). These last two children were named in the will of their mother's sister, Mary (Smith) Raymond.

Fourth Generation

Lydia Miller was born Yarmouth 18 May 1661 and died Kingston 1 Mar 1728. She married Plymouth 29 Dec 1681 Jacob Cooke (II) and they had eight children: William (1683), Lydia (1685 m John Faunce), Rebecca (1688 m Benjamin Sampson), Jacob (1691), Margaret (1695 m Simon Lassell [Lazzell]), Josiah (1699), Damaris (1703 m John Delano) and John (1703).

Rebecca Miller was born Yarmouth 7 Nov 1663 and died Plymouth 4 Apr 1688. She married Yarmouth 15 Feb 1681 Thomas Clark and they had two children: Susanna (1683) and Thomas (1685).

Hannah Miller was born Yarmouth 19 Apr 1666 and died Yarmouth 23 Aug 1710. She married Yarmouth 12 Feb 1689/90 Joseph Hall and they had seven children (Yarmouth): Hannah (1690/1 m Ebenezer Crocker), Priscilla (1692 m Benjamin Crocker), Margery (1695 m Paul Crowell), Joseph (1697), Daniel (1699), Josiah (1701) and David (1704).

Margaret Miller was born Yarmouth 19 Apr 1668 and died there 13 Jan 1723/4. She married Yarmouth 30 Apr 1694 John Hall and they had two children (Yarmouth): Mehitable (1695) and Sarah (1697).

Mehitable Miller was born Yarmouth 14 May 1670 and died there 17 Feb 1743/4. She married Yarmouth 16 Feb 1692/3 Joseph Crosby and they had five children (Yarmouth): Theophilus (1693), Joseph (1695), Mehitable (1696 unk. if marr.), Sarah (1701 m Judah Tha(t)cher) and Josiah (1706).

Susanah Miller was born Yarmouth 26 Jul 1677 and died Plymouth in Jul 1721. She married before 1700 Thomas Clark and they had two children: Anna (1700 m Gideon Ellis) and Abigail (1701 m Nathaniel Bartlett).

Rebecca Thacher was born Yarmouth 1 Jun 1669 and died there 10 Apr 1734. She married Yarmouth about 1690 James Sturgis and they had seven children (Yarmouth): Rebecca (1690, unm.), Hannah (1693 m John Matthews), Bethiah (1695 m Isaac Freeman & Job Gorham), Temperance (1697, unm.), Thankful (1701 m Timothy Hallett), Elizabeth (1703 m Gershom Davis) and James (1707).

Bethiah Thacher was born Yarmouth 10 Jul 1671 and died Barnstable 8 Jul 1734 She married Barnstable 9 Apr 1691 James Paine and they had seven children: James (1691/2), Thomas (1694), Bethia (1695/6-1697), Bethia (1698 m Samuel Russell), Mary (1700 m Nathaniel Freeman & Edmund Hawes), Experience (1703 m Samuel Hunt) and Rebecca (1705, unm.)

Elizabeth Thacher was born Yarmouth 1 Mar 1672 or 19 Jun 1677. She died Falmouth 18 May 1710. Elizabeth married Falmouth 18 Oct 1699 Moses Hatch and they had five children: Moses (c1700), Elizabeth (1701 m Timothy Hallett), Rebecca (1703 m James Lewis), Hannah (1705 m ___ Marshall) and Sylvanus (c1707).

Hannah Sturtevant was born Plymouth 10 Apr 1687 and died there 27 May 1756. She married 8 Jan 1708 Josiah Cotton, Esq. and they had eight children: Hannah (1709 m ___ Dyre), Mary (1710 m John Cushing "3d"), John (1712), Theophilus (1716), Lucy (1717 m ___ Dyer), Josiah (1719-1720), Josiah (1723-1723) and Edward (1726-1726).

Elizabeth Tracy was born Norwich, CT 7 Jul 1676 and died there 11 Nov 1739. She married Norwich 7 Jul 1702 Nathaniel Backus and they had five children (Norwich): Nathaniel (1704), Mary (1707 m Nathaniel Rudd), Elizabeth (1709 m John Hyde II), Josiah (1710) and Jabez (1712).


Hannah Rider was born about 1680 and died abt 1767. She married Jeremiah Jackson and they had at least one child: Thomas (c1703).

Sarah Rider was born Plymouth 26 Mar 1682 and died there 19 Nov 1778. She married Plymouth 20 Nov 1707 Joshua Bramhall and they had at least one child: Sylvanus (1712).

Lydia Rider was born Plymouth 10 Oct 1686. She married there 4 Feb 1700/1 Elisha Cobb and they had eight children: Elisha (1704), Lemuel (1706), Sylvanus (1709), Hurst (1711), Lydia (1713 m Jonathan Darling), Elizabeth (1716 m James Cushman & Joseph Ruggles), John (1719) and Jabez (1721).

Mary Rider was born Plymouth 10 Oct 1694. She married there 3 Jul 1718 Ebenezer Bartlett and they had three children: Rebecca (1719 m Charles Rider), Lydia (1721 m Lemuel Delano) and Nathaniel (1723).

Elizabeth Rider was born Plymouth 16 Mar 1695/6 and died there after 26 Sep 1754. She married Plymouth 23 Oct 1718 Solomon Sylvester and they had thirteen children: Reuben (1719/20), Nathaniel (1721), Elizabeth (1722 m Amaziah Churchill), Abner (1723), Caleb (1725), Lydia (1726 m Lemuel Churchill), infant son (1728), Reuben (1728/9), Ebenezer (1730), Joseph (1731), Solomon (1733), Bartlett (1735) and Hannah (1737 unm.)


Anne Raymond was born New London, CT 12 May 1664 and died Norwich, CT 8 May 1705. She married Norwich 1681 Thomas Bradford and they had five children: Joshua (1682), James (1689), Ann (c1691 m Edward DeWolfe & Peter Strickland), Jerusha (1692 m Hezekiah Newcomb) and William (c1695).

Martha Raymond was born New London, CT about 1666. She married Jonathan Rainsford and they had at least one child: Elizabeth (c1681 m Samuel Avery).

Hannah Raymond was born Norwich, CT 8 Aug 1668 and died there 28 Jan 1742. She married twice, first to Charles Buckley, MD and second Wethersfield, CT 13 Mar 1693 Thomas Avery. By her first husband Hannah had one child: Hannah (1690 m Richard Goodrich). By her second husband Hannah had seven more children: Joshua (1695), Elizabeth (c1697 m Sylvester Baldwin), Mary (c1699 m Benjamin Baker), Isaac (1702), Jonathan (1704), Charles (c1706) and Peter (c1711).

Mary Raymond was born New London, CT 12 Mar 1671/2 and died Woodstock, CT 8 Apr 1711. She married Woodstock 10 Nov 1692 John Chandler and they had ten children: John (1693), Joshua (1696), William (1698), Mary (1700 unk. if marr.), Elizabeth (1702 m James Frizzell), Samuel (1703/4), Sarah (1705 unm.), Mehitable (1707 m Thomas Buckminster), Thomas (1709) and Hannah (1711-1711).

Anne Abell was born Norwich, CT 2 Apr 1681 and died Lebanon, CT 3 Jul 1728. She married Lebanon 10 Dec 1701 Nathaniel Fitch and they had thirteen children: Anne (1702 m John Partridge), Joshua (1704), Nathan (1705), Nehemiah (1707/8), James (1709), John (1712), Nathaniel (1714), Lyndall (1716), Mehitable (1717 m William Whitley), Elizabeth (1718 m Daniel Bissell), Rachel (1720-1726), Abel (1722) and Caleb (1725).

Martha Abell was born Norwich, CT 13 Feb 1682/3 and died Lebanon, CT 25 May 1751. She married twice, first Norwich 8 Feb 1700 Obadiah Smith and second, Norwich 23 Apr 1730 William Buell (no children). By her first husband Martha had six children: Joshua (1705), Daniel (1707), Martha (1710 m Ephraim Kingsbury), John (1715), Abner (1722) and James (1725-1729).


  1. The only contemporary record for Elizabeth is the Marshfield record of her death. As such, it is possible she may not have been Thomas' only wife, and may not be the mother of his children (or at least some of them).
  2. It is possible she may have been the Elizabeth Fisher who married St Alkmund, Derby, Derbyshire 21 Dec 1607 to Thomas Burne.
  3. The only known record for her.
  4. See [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bourne-2 WikiTree profile for Thomas Bourne for a possible identification of Thomas and his wife, based on the names of their children.
  5. She was called aged 75 (which may simply have been an estimate) at the time of her death in 1683.
  6. First child born 8 Aug 1638.
  7. Estimate, based on first married in 1638.
  8. See Wikitree Profile for Ann Bourne for speculation about her name being "Sarah Ann".
  9. Estimate based on married 1639/40, two years after her sister, Elizabeth.
  10. Their youngest child, Mehitable, was recorded born 4 Jul 1655 at Marshfield It is possible they were visiting family back there when this child was born.
  11. Given the fact many of the children appeared to be born in one year intervals, it is likely the family had a "wet nurse" as breastfeeding children typically doubles as a form of birth control (which is why it is much more typical to see children born every other year).
  12. Estimate, based on first husband born 1617.
  13. It appears where Martha may have been a SISTER to Margaret (Bourne) Winslow, rather than her daughter.

DNA results H9a

Previous mtDNA testing

Two matrilineal descendants (a mother and her daughter) report at WikiTree where they are matrilineal descendants of Elizabeth and state they fall under the H9a mtDNA haplogroup. Anyone who believes they descend in a direct female line (ie mother's mother's mother's etc mother) is encouraged to contact MayflowerDNA1620@gmail.com

Lineage of testers

 Elizabeth ____ Bourne (c1590-1660)
   Margaret BOURNE Winslow (c1608-1683)
     Mary WINSLOW Tracy (1645-1721)
       Elizabeth TRACY Backus (1676-1739)
         Mary BACKUS Rudd (1707-1752)
           Sarah RUDD Smith (1741-1770)
             Lucretia SMITH Lester (c1768-1850)
               Abigail Mariah LESTER Warren (1816-1905)
                 Florence Wright WARREN Perkins (1859-1889)
                   Mary Inez PERKINS Demotte (1879-1936)
                     mother of tester 1
                       tester 1  
                         tester 2  

References & External Links

  • Anderson, Robert Charles, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633), New England Historic Genealogical Society, Boston, MA 1995