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==Status summary==
 
==Status summary==
 
As of April 7, 2020
 
As of April 7, 2020
* Page created for (poss.) Susanna (Unknown), wife of James Chilton
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* Page created for the wife of James Chilton
 
* Known mtDNA descendants of her daughter Mary (Chilton) Winslow contacted
 
* Known mtDNA descendants of her daughter Mary (Chilton) Winslow contacted
* recruitment of individuals who are mtDNA descendants of (poss.) Susanna. Folks who are mtDNA descendants are encouraged to contact Raymond T. Wing (email: wing.genealogist AT gmail DOT com)
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* recruitment of individuals who are mtDNA matches T2b+16288C. Matches are encouraged to contact Raymond T. Wing (email: wing.genealogist AT gmail DOT com)
  
 
==Background==
 
==Background==
 
===Biography===
 
===Biography===
Many genealogists have been searching for the identity of the wife of James Chilton. The only clue we currently have is recorded in the 1840 ''History of Bridgewater, Massachusetts'' by Hon. Nahum Mitchell. The book reported the given name of Mrs. Chilton as Susanna. When Nathaniel B. Shurtleff later asked Judge Mitchell asked about the source of this information, Mitchell stated he could not recall, but believed he had "good authority" for calling her Susanna.<ref>The identities of some of the other wives of early Bridgewater settlers made by Judge Mitchell in his 1840 History have since been disproven, which casts doubt about this claim regarding the given name of the wife of James Chilton</ref><ref>Some have theorized where the wife may have been Susanna Furber, daughter of his step-mother (Isabell) by her first husband, Francis Furber. Susanna Furber was baptized 5 Nov 1573, so she was not old enough to have a child baptized in 1584.</ref>
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Many genealogists have been searching for the identity of the wife of James Chilton. The only clue we currently have is recorded in the 1840 ''History of Bridgewater, Massachusetts'' by Hon. Nahum Mitchell. The book reported the given name of Mrs. Chilton as Susanna. When Nathaniel B. Shurtleff later asked Judge Mitchell about the source of this information, Mitchell stated he could not recall, but believed he had "good authority" for calling her Susanna. It must be noted Mitchell erred in the identification of other settler's wives, so his claim regarding the given name of the wife of James Chilton may similarly be in error.<ref>Some have theorized where the wife may have been Susanna Furber, daughter of his step-mother (Isabell) by her first husband, Francis Furber. Susanna Furber was baptized 5 Nov 1573, so she was not old enough to have a child baptized in 1584.</ref>
  
James and his wife were married about 1583 presumably in or near Canterbury, Kent, England where they had their older children baptised.<ref>Their first known child, Joell was baptized at St. Paul's Canterbury on 16 Aug 1584. While this baptismal record does not name Joell's parents, his burial record does state he was son of James Chilton.</ref>
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James and his wife were married about 1583 presumably in or near Canterbury, Kent, England where their older children were baptised.<ref>Their first known child, Joell was baptized at St. Paul's Canterbury on 16 Aug 1584. While this baptismal record does not name Joell's parents, his burial record states he was son of James Chilton.</ref>
  
James came over on the Mayflower with his wife and only one of his children, daughter Mary (baptized St. Peter's Parish, Sandwich on 31 May 1607). James died on board the ''Mayflower'' while it was docked at Cape Cod Harbour (now Providence) on 8 Dec 1620. His widow died during the general sickness sometime during the winter of 1620/1.
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James came over on the Mayflower with his wife and only one of his children, youngest daughter Mary (baptized St. Peter's Parish, Sandwich on 31 May 1607). James died on board the ''Mayflower'' while it was docked at Cape Cod Harbour (now Providence) on 8 Dec 1620. His widow died during the general sickness sometime during the winter of 1620/1.
  
 
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===mtDNA Descendants===
 
===mtDNA Descendants===
While James and his wife had at least ten children (three sons and seven daughters) only the two daughters who came to Plymouth Colony (Mary and Isabella) have had their families traced. There is a real possibility of mtDNA descendants living in England and elsewhere.
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While James Chilton and his wife had at least ten children (three sons and seven daughters) only the two daughters who came to Plymouth Colony (Mary and Isabella) have had their families traced. There is a real possibility of mtDNA descendants living in the Netherlands and/or England or somewhere else.
  
 
SECOND GENERATION
 
SECOND GENERATION
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THIRD GENERATION
 
THIRD GENERATION
Susanna Winslow was born about 1630 and died at Bridgewater between 31 Jul 1676 and 3 Oct 1683.<ref>will of her brother, John Winslow</ref> She married at presumably at Plymouth about 1649 to Robert Latham. They had eight children (3 sons and five daughters [Mercy, Susanna, Hannah, Elizabeth, Sarah]). mtDNA descendants of both Mercy & Hannah have done Full mtDNA testing and are a perfect match to each other.
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Susanna Winslow was born about 1630 and died at Bridgewater between 31 Jul 1676 and 3 Oct 1683.<ref>will of her brother, John Winslow</ref> She married presumably at Plymouth about 1649 to Robert Latham. They had eight children (3 sons and five daughters [Mercy, Susanna, Hannah, Elizabeth, Sarah]). mtDNA descendants of both Mercy & Hannah have done Full mtDNA testing and are a perfect match to each other.
  
 
Mary Winslow was born about 1632 and died at Plymouth between 1663-1665. She married at Plymouth 16 Jan 1650/1 to Edward Gray. They had six children (one son and five daughters [Desire, Mary, Elizabeth, Sarah & Anna]). A mtDNA descendant of daughter Mary has done mtDNA testing (HVR1+HVR2)
 
Mary Winslow was born about 1632 and died at Plymouth between 1663-1665. She married at Plymouth 16 Jan 1650/1 to Edward Gray. They had six children (one son and five daughters [Desire, Mary, Elizabeth, Sarah & Anna]). A mtDNA descendant of daughter Mary has done mtDNA testing (HVR1+HVR2)
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==External Links==
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==References & External Links==
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Wakefield, Robert S. (revising work by Robert M. Sherman & Verle D. Vincent), ''Mayflower Families through Five Generations (Vol 15: James Chilton and Richard More)'' General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA (1997)
  
 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Chilton wikipedia article on James Chilton]
 
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Chilton wikipedia article on James Chilton]
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[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MH1G-83F FamilySearch wiki on Mrs. James Chilton]
 
[https://www.familysearch.org/tree/person/details/MH1G-83F FamilySearch wiki on Mrs. James Chilton]
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[https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/167821783/person/372177044868/facts online Chilton mtDNA tree (with Winslow Y DNA as well)]
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[https://www.winslowheritagesociety.org/ Winslow Heritage Society]
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[https://www.themayflowersociety.org/ The General Society of Mayflower Descendants]
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[https://www.familytreedna.com/groups/mayflowersociety/about Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) Mayflower Project]
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[https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mayflowersociety?iframe=mtresults mtDNA results from FTDNA Mayflower Project]

Revision as of 11:08, 9 April 2020

Status summary

As of April 7, 2020

  • Page created for the wife of James Chilton
  • Known mtDNA descendants of her daughter Mary (Chilton) Winslow contacted
  • recruitment of individuals who are mtDNA matches T2b+16288C. Matches are encouraged to contact Raymond T. Wing (email: wing.genealogist AT gmail DOT com)

Background

Biography

Many genealogists have been searching for the identity of the wife of James Chilton. The only clue we currently have is recorded in the 1840 History of Bridgewater, Massachusetts by Hon. Nahum Mitchell. The book reported the given name of Mrs. Chilton as Susanna. When Nathaniel B. Shurtleff later asked Judge Mitchell about the source of this information, Mitchell stated he could not recall, but believed he had "good authority" for calling her Susanna. It must be noted Mitchell erred in the identification of other settler's wives, so his claim regarding the given name of the wife of James Chilton may similarly be in error.[1]

James and his wife were married about 1583 presumably in or near Canterbury, Kent, England where their older children were baptised.[2]

James came over on the Mayflower with his wife and only one of his children, youngest daughter Mary (baptized St. Peter's Parish, Sandwich on 31 May 1607). James died on board the Mayflower while it was docked at Cape Cod Harbour (now Providence) on 8 Dec 1620. His widow died during the general sickness sometime during the winter of 1620/1.

  1. Some have theorized where the wife may have been Susanna Furber, daughter of his step-mother (Isabell) by her first husband, Francis Furber. Susanna Furber was baptized 5 Nov 1573, so she was not old enough to have a child baptized in 1584.
  2. Their first known child, Joell was baptized at St. Paul's Canterbury on 16 Aug 1584. While this baptismal record does not name Joell's parents, his burial record states he was son of James Chilton.

mtDNA Results T2b+16288C

A proposed mtDNA descendant of Mary (Chilton) Winslow has taken a full mtDNA test and posted her results on the Family Tree DNA Mayflower Project[1] This descendant [who descends from Mary's daughter Susanna (Winslow) Latham] has not had their lineage vetted by the General Society of Mayflower Descendants (GSMD), but is an exact HVR1+HVR2 match to a mtDNA descendant of Mary (Winslow) Gray, a sister to Susanna (Winslow) Latham.[2]

The Haplogroup assigned to the full mtDNA results is T2b, but all three results include an additional HVR1 mutation at: 16288C.[3]

  1. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/mayflowersociety?iframe=mtresults under Mary Chilton
  2. It is currently unknown if this second descendant is a GSMD member or not. In addition, there is a third full mtDNA match to someone who also claims to be a mtDNA descendant of Susanna (Winslow) Latham, but has not joined the GSMD
  3. It is hoped this additional mutation would form a new subclade of T2b at some time in the future.

mtDNA Descendants

While James Chilton and his wife had at least ten children (three sons and seven daughters) only the two daughters who came to Plymouth Colony (Mary and Isabella) have had their families traced. There is a real possibility of mtDNA descendants living in the Netherlands and/or England or somewhere else.

SECOND GENERATION Isabella Chilton was the eldest surviving child, baptized at St. Paul's Cathedral, Canterbury, Kent, England on 15 Jan 1586/7. She married at Leiden 21 Jul 1615[1] to Roger Chandler.[2] While Roger & Isabella had one son (Samuel, who presumably died young) and three daughters (Sarah, Martha & Mary)[3], the most recent Mayflower "Silver Book"[4] documents only one female mtDNA descendant of the Sixth Generation[5]. This was Hannah Prisberry (Martha Smith, Mary Bundy, Martha Chandler, Isabella Chilton, (poss.) Susanna). Hannah was born at Taunton 1 Oct 1715.[6] Given the fact it is much more difficult to trace maternal lines than paternal lines, it is possible there are unidentified mtDNA descendants of Isabella living today.

Mary Chilton was the youngest child, baptized at St. Peter's Church, Sandwich, Kent, England on 30 May 1607. She married at New Plimouth before the 1627 Cattle Division to John Winslow. They had ten children (one infant [sex unknown], six sons and three daughters [Susanna, Mary and Sarah])

THIRD GENERATION Susanna Winslow was born about 1630 and died at Bridgewater between 31 Jul 1676 and 3 Oct 1683.[7] She married presumably at Plymouth about 1649 to Robert Latham. They had eight children (3 sons and five daughters [Mercy, Susanna, Hannah, Elizabeth, Sarah]). mtDNA descendants of both Mercy & Hannah have done Full mtDNA testing and are a perfect match to each other.

Mary Winslow was born about 1632 and died at Plymouth between 1663-1665. She married at Plymouth 16 Jan 1650/1 to Edward Gray. They had six children (one son and five daughters [Desire, Mary, Elizabeth, Sarah & Anna]). A mtDNA descendant of daughter Mary has done mtDNA testing (HVR1+HVR2)

  1. Leiden had already switched to New Style dating. This would be 11 Jul 1615 in England
  2. Mayflower Descendant 11:129
  3. TAG 27:1-6, 37:212-17
  4. Volume 15
  5. last generation published in this volume
  6. It is possible she was the Hannah Prisbry who died at Taunton 20 Sep 1763. If so, then she never married.
  7. will of her brother, John Winslow

References & External Links

Wakefield, Robert S. (revising work by Robert M. Sherman & Verle D. Vincent), Mayflower Families through Five Generations (Vol 15: James Chilton and Richard More) General Society of Mayflower Descendants, Plymouth, MA (1997)

wikipedia article on James Chilton

Caleb Johnson's biography of James Chilton

Mayflower Heritage and History biography of James Chilton

Find-a-grave wiki on James Chilton

Plymouth Sketches 1620-1627


Familypedia wiki on James Chilton

wikitree wiki on James Chilton

geni.com wiki on James Chilton's wife

FamilySearch wiki on Mrs. James Chilton

online Chilton mtDNA tree (with Winslow Y DNA as well)


Winslow Heritage Society

The General Society of Mayflower Descendants

Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) Mayflower Project

mtDNA results from FTDNA Mayflower Project