Winslow (Y-DNA) - Revision history

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 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-146 '''Joseph Winslow'''] was born Plymouth abt 1643 and died Long Island, NY bef 7 Aug 1679. He married bef 10 Oct 1668 Sarah Lawrence and they had four children, including Mary (1674) and Joseph (1677).
 ===Third Generation===
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 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1499 '''Joseph Winslow (II)'''] was born Boston 16 Jun 1677 and died Fishkill, NY bef 18 Apr 1761. He married twice, first Manhattan, NY 24 Nov 1721 Abigail Snethen then Fishkill 28 Jun 1742 Margaret ___ Heyser (no children). By his first wife he had ''at least'' three children:<ref>Some sources also give children John and Hannah.</ref> [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1547 Samuel] (1725), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1548 Joseph] (1727 m Margaret Storm but no known children) and Sarah (1730).
 ===Fourth Generation===

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 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-77 '''John Winslow''']<ref>[https://pilgrimhall.org/john_winslow.htm Pilgrim Hall Museum] John Winslow biography.</ref> was the second child. His baptismal record states he was baptized on 18 Apr 1597 and he was born the Saturday before being baptized (16 Apr). While John himself was not a Mayflower Passenger (he came on the ''Fortune'' in 1621) he married at New Plimoth (before the 1627 Cattle Division) [[(poss.) Susanna (Unknown) (mtDNA)#Second Generation |Mary Chilton]], who did come over on the Mayflower. Thus all descendants of John Winslow are eligible to join the General Society of Mayflower Descendants through Mary. John moved his family to Boston by 1655 and he died there sometime between the writing of his will (12 Mar 1673/4) and its probate (21 May 1674). John & Mary had a total of ten children (three girls, one infant and six sons). According to an old website (no longer active), winslowgenealogy the living Y-DNA line is limited to his grandson, [https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/167821783/person/372177171460/facts (Col.) Edward Winslow (II)], son of Edward. However, current research cannot rule out the possibility of living Y-DNA lines from other sons (and grandsons) of John & Mary. The Mayflower Families through Five Generations "Silver Book" vol. 15 (which includes the Chilton Family) does name a limited number of Y-DNA (male Winslow) descendants of the Fifth and Sixth generation.
-[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-119 '''Kenelm Winslow'''] was the fourth child (and third son). His baptismal record states he was baptized 3 May 1599 and he was born the Sunday before (29 Apr). Kenelm is believed to have emigrated to Plymouth Colony in 1631 along with his younger brother, Josiah. Kenelm married at Plymouth in Jun 1634 to Ellen Newton, widow of John Adams. Kenelm & Ellen had four children (one daughter and three sons). While his brothers (with the exception of Gilbert) had more children than Kenelm, the vast majority of living Winslow Y-DNA descendants descend from Kenelm. In fact, there are many more living Winslow Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm than Y-DNA descendants of '''all''' of his brothers combined.
+[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-119 '''Kenelm Winslow'''] was the fourth child (and third son). His baptismal record states he was baptized 3 May 1599 and he was born the Sunday before (29 Apr). Kenelm is believed to have emigrated to Plymouth Colony in 1631 along with his younger brother, Josiah. Kenelm married at Plymouth in Jun 1634 to Ellen Newton, widow of John Adams. Kenelm & Ellen had four children: Kenelm (1635), Eleanor (c1637), Nathaniel (c1639) and Job (c1641). While his brothers (with the exception of Gilbert) had more children than Kenelm, the vast majority of living Winslow Y-DNA descendants descend from Kenelm. In fact, there are many more living Winslow Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm than Y-DNA descendants of '''all''' of his brothers combined.
 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-156 Gilbert Winslow] was the fifth child (and fourth son). His baptismal record states he was baptized 29 Oct 1600 and he was born the Sunday before  (26 Oct). Gilbert emigrated aboard the Mayflower in 1620 with his eldest brother, Edward, but returned to England sometime between the 1623 land division and the 1627 cattle division. In 1651 William Bradford reported Gilbert had died in England, but it is unknown if Gilbert's death had been reported back to Plymouth, or whether Bradford was simply stating where Gilbert's family record in Plymouth is over. It is currently unknown whether Gilbert ever married so no descendants are known.

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 As of May 2023 there are five patrilineal (all male line) descendants of the Winslow family from Droitwich who have taken the Big Y-700 test.<ref>In addition, there is a sixth individual who has taken the older Big Y-500 test.</ref> One of these individuals is known to descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, two are known to descend from his brother Kenelm, while the other two individuals are unable to trace their patrilineal line back to one of the brothers, their Big Y results conclusively prove they descend from the Plymouth Colony Winslow family. The results of these five individuals document where the Winslow family clade/Haplogroup is I-M253>>Z61>S9939>>S11023>BY34545>BYBY34542>BY71464.
-The two descendants of Kenelm Winslow (descending from two different sons of Kenelm) fall under a subclade of BY71464>BY108126 This indicates where <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm must fall under BY108126. The descendant of Edward and one of the testers who cannot trace his line both descend from a different subclade of BY17464>FT334733 This indicates where this other tester <b>must</b> also descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, but does not necessarily mean that <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Edward must fall under FT334733 (i.e. some Y-DNA descendants of Gov. Edward Winslow may be ancestral to FT334733). The fifth Big Y tester is negative for both of these subclades, thus likely does not descend from either Edward or Kenelm. Given the fact the other brothers (Gilbert and Josias) have no surviving Y-DNA descendants this indicates where this fifth tester <b>likely</b> descends from John Winslow.
+The two descendants of Kenelm Winslow (descending from two different sons of Kenelm) fall under a subclade of BY71464>BY108126 This indicates where <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm must fall under BY108126. The descendant of Edward and one of the testers who cannot trace his line both descend from a different subclade of BY17464>FT334733 This indicates where this other tester <b>must</b> also descend from Gov. Edward Winslow. Given the fact that Edward Winslow only had a single great-grandson who carried on the surname (and Y-DNA line) it is likely <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Edward will fall under FT334733. The fifth Big Y tester is negative for both of these subclades, thus likely does not descend from either Edward or Kenelm. Given the fact the other brothers (Gilbert and Josias) have no surviving Y-DNA descendants this indicates where this fifth tester <b>likely</b> descends from John Winslow.
 ====Usefulness of ''Big Y'' and ''Y-Elite'' testing====

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 As of May 2023 there are five patrilineal (all male line) descendants of the Winslow family from Droitwich who have taken the Big Y-700 test.<ref>In addition, there is a sixth individual who has taken the older Big Y-500 test.</ref> One of these individuals is known to descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, two are known to descend from his brother Kenelm, while the other two individuals are unable to trace their patrilineal line back to one of the brothers, their Big Y results conclusively prove they descend from the Plymouth Colony Winslow family. The results of these five individuals document where the Winslow family clade/Haplogroup is I-M253>>Z61>S9939>>S11023>BY34545>BYBY34542>BY71464.
-The two descendants of Kenelm Winslow (descending from two different sons of Kenelm) fall under a subclade of BY71464>BY108126 This indicates where <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm must fall under BY108126. The descendant of Edward and one of the testers who cannot trace his line both descend from a different subclade of BY17464>FT334733 This indicates where this other tester <b>must</b> also descend from Gov. Edward Winslow and <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Edward must fall under FT334733. The fifth Big Y tester is negative for both of these subclades, thus cannot descend from either Edward or Kenelm. Given the fact the other brothers (Gilbert and Josias) have no surviving Y-DNA descendants this indicates where this fifth tester <b>must</b> descend from John Winslow.
+The two descendants of Kenelm Winslow (descending from two different sons of Kenelm) fall under a subclade of BY71464>BY108126 This indicates where <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm must fall under BY108126. The descendant of Edward and one of the testers who cannot trace his line both descend from a different subclade of BY17464>FT334733 This indicates where this other tester <b>must</b> also descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, but does not necessarily mean that <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Edward must fall under FT334733 (i.e. some Y-DNA descendants of Gov. Edward Winslow may be ancestral to FT334733). The fifth Big Y tester is negative for both of these subclades, thus likely does not descend from either Edward or Kenelm. Given the fact the other brothers (Gilbert and Josias) have no surviving Y-DNA descendants this indicates where this fifth tester <b>likely</b> descends from John Winslow.
 ====Usefulness of ''Big Y'' and ''Y-Elite'' testing====

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                      (Maj.) John DOUGLAS Winslow (1891-1958)
                        ''tester'' <!--* John Edward Douglas Winslow, FTDNA kit #N139456 in Mayflower DNA Project in Winslow DNA project. Big Y-700-->
 ==References & External links==

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 ===NGS/WGS Results===
-As of May 2023 there are five patrilineal (all male line) descendants of the Winslow family from Droitwich who have taken the Big Y-700 test. One of these individuals is known to descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, two are known to descend from his brother Kenelm, while the other two individuals are unable to trace their patrilineal line back to one of the brothers, their Big Y results conclusively prove they descend from the Plymouth Colony Winslow family. The results of these five individuals document where the Winslow family clade/Haplogroup is I-M253>>Z61>S9939>>S11023>BY34545>BYBY34542>BY71464.
+As of May 2023 there are five patrilineal (all male line) descendants of the Winslow family from Droitwich who have taken the Big Y-700 test.<ref>In addition, there is a sixth individual who has taken the older Big Y-500 test.</ref> One of these individuals is known to descend from Gov. Edward Winslow, two are known to descend from his brother Kenelm, while the other two individuals are unable to trace their patrilineal line back to one of the brothers, their Big Y results conclusively prove they descend from the Plymouth Colony Winslow family. The results of these five individuals document where the Winslow family clade/Haplogroup is I-M253>>Z61>S9939>>S11023>BY34545>BYBY34542>BY71464.
 The two descendants of Kenelm Winslow (descending from two different sons of Kenelm) fall under a subclade of BY71464>BY108126 This indicates where <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Kenelm must fall under BY108126. The descendant of Edward and one of the testers who cannot trace his line both descend from a different subclade of BY17464>FT334733 This indicates where this other tester <b>must</b> also descend from Gov. Edward Winslow and <b>all</b> Y-DNA descendants of Edward must fall under FT334733. The fifth Big Y tester is negative for both of these subclades, thus cannot descend from either Edward or Kenelm. Given the fact the other brothers (Gilbert and Josias) have no surviving Y-DNA descendants this indicates where this fifth tester <b>must</b> descend from John Winslow.

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	[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1046 (Maj.Gen.) John Winslow] was born Careswell Manor, Marshfield 27 May 1703 and died Hingham 17 Apr 1774. He married twice, first Marshfield 16 Feb 1724/5 Mary Little then Pembroke 7 Dec 1772 Bethiah Barker (no children). By his first wife he had: [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-3220 Josiah] (1730-1730), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-2751 Pelham] (1737 no surviving sons) and [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-3140 Isaac] (1739 no surviving Y-DNA line).		[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1046 (Maj.Gen.) John Winslow] was born Careswell Manor, Marshfield 27 May 1703 and died Hingham 17 Apr 1774. He married twice, first Marshfield 16 Feb 1724/5 Mary Little then Pembroke 7 Dec 1772 Bethiah Barker (no children). By his first wife he had: [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-3220 Josiah] (1730-1730), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-2751 Pelham] (1737 no surviving sons) and [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-3140 Isaac] (1739 no surviving Y-DNA line).

−	[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1369 '''(Hon.) Edward Winslow, Esq.'''] was born Careswell Manor 7 Jun 1714 and died Halifax, Nova Scotia 8 Jun 1784. He had built a house in Plymouth now the "Mayflower House" and headquarters of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. He married Plymouth 10 Apr 1741 Hannah Howland Dyer and they had: John (1741-1742), Penelope (1743), Sarah (1744), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1368 '''Edward'''] (1746/7 m Mary Symonds, their son [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1946 '''John ~~Franis~~ Winslow'''] is the only Y-DNA descendant of Gov. Edward Winslow to have living Y-DNA descendants) and infant son (1747-1747).	+	[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1369 '''(Hon.) Edward Winslow, Esq.'''] was born Careswell Manor 7 Jun 1714 and died Halifax, Nova Scotia 8 Jun 1784. He had built a house in Plymouth now the "Mayflower House" and headquarters of the General Society of Mayflower Descendants. He married Plymouth 10 Apr 1741 Hannah Howland Dyer and they had: John (1741-1742), Penelope (1743), Sarah (1744), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1368 '''Edward'''] (1746/7 m Mary Symonds, their son [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1946 '''John Francis Winslow'''] is the only Y-DNA descendant of Gov. Edward Winslow to have living Y-DNA descendants) and infant son (1747-1747).

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 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1493 John Winslow] was born Boston 18 Jun 1661 and died there 22 Apr 1699 he. ''poss.'' married Sarah ____ but no children are known.
-[hhttps://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-803 '''(Col.) Edward Winslow (II)'''] was born Boston 1 Nov 1669 and died there 1 Dec 1753. He married thrice, first Boston 30 Jun 1692 Hannah Moody, then Boston 12 May 1712 Elizabeth Dixey and finally Boston 27 Mar 1744 Susanna FARNHAM Lyman (no children). By his first wife he had ten children: [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1532 Edward] (1693 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1206 Joshua] (1694), Hannah (1696 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1534 John] (1698 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1535 William] (1700 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1415 John] (1700), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1536 Edward] (1702), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1537 Samuel] (1705), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1538 William] (1707) and [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1445 Isaac] (1709). By his second wife he had one more child: Elizabeth (1712).
+[https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-803 '''(Col.) Edward Winslow (II)'''] was born Boston 1 Nov 1669 and died there 1 Dec 1753. He married thrice, first Boston 30 Jun 1692 Hannah Moody, then Boston 12 May 1712 Elizabeth Dixey and finally Boston 27 Mar 1744 Susanna FARNHAM Lyman (no children). By his first wife he had ten children: [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1532 Edward] (1693 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1206 Joshua] (1694), Hannah (1696 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1534 John] (1698 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1535 William] (1700 d.y.), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1415 John] (1700), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1536 Edward] (1702), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1537 Samuel] (1705), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1538 William] (1707) and [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1445 Isaac] (1709). By his second wife he had one more child: Elizabeth (1712).
 [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1499 '''Joseph Winslow (II)'''] was born Boston 16 Jun 1677 and died Fishkill, NY bef 18 Apr 1761. He married twice, first Manhattan, NY 24 Nov 1721 Abigail Snethen then Fishkill 28 Jun 1742 Margaret ___ Heyser (no children). By his first wife he had ''at least'' three children:<ref>Some sources also give children John and Hannah.</ref> [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1547 Samuel] (1725), [https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Winslow-1548 Joseph] (1727 m Margaret Storm but no known children) and Sarah (1730).

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 ===Availability of Y-DNA SNP testing===
-Family Tree DNA (www.familytreedna.com) currently does not offer individual Y-SNP testing and the only test they have to discover your Y-SNPs is the Big Y-700 test (regular price US $449, but they do have sales on this test from time to time). However, YSEQ does have [https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=227072&osCsid=ff8e8a0b0438d0092cce73f75797197d BY71464] for purchase (US $3.00 for the DNA sample kit and US $19.00 for the Y-SNP test).
+Family Tree DNA (www.familytreedna.com) currently does not offer individual Y-SNP testing and the only test they have to discover your Y-SNPs is the Big Y-700 test (regular price US $449, but they do have sales on this test from time to time). However, YSEQ does have [https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=227072&osCsid=ff8e8a0b0438d0092cce73f75797197d BY71464] for purchase (US $3.00 for the DNA sample kit and US $19.00 for the Y-SNP test). In addition [https://www.yseq.net/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=FT334733&search_in_description=1&osCsid=ff8e8a0b0438d0092cce73f75797197d&x=7&y=4 FT334733] (The clade defining descendants of Gov. Edward Winslow) is also available for purchase at YSEQ.
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	Another benefit of the NGS/WGS testing is that we can identify the SNPs unique to each branch of the family. Once we have those SNPs we can make them available for individual testing at YSEQ.net. Both BY71464 and BY108126 are currently available for purchase at a cost of US $18 (plus a small fee for a DNA sample and mailing).This fee is much smaller than the fee for NGS/WGS testing. Once we discover mutations only found in descendants of Edward and John, we may want to develop a SNP panel at YSEQ which includes all of the SNPs in one test for at a cost less than testing all the SNPs individually. It must be kept in mind testing at YSEQ does not have the ability to discover new mutations.		Another benefit of the NGS/WGS testing is that we can identify the SNPs unique to each branch of the family. Once we have those SNPs we can make them available for individual testing at YSEQ.net. Both BY71464 and BY108126 are currently available for purchase at a cost of US $18 (plus a small fee for a DNA sample and mailing).This fee is much smaller than the fee for NGS/WGS testing. Once we discover mutations only found in descendants of Edward and John, we may want to develop a SNP panel at YSEQ which includes all of the SNPs in one test for at a cost less than testing all the SNPs individually. It must be kept in mind testing at YSEQ does not have the ability to discover new mutations.
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		+	===Availability of Y-DNA SNP testing===
		+	Family Tree DNA (www.familytreedna.com) currently does not offer individual Y-SNP testing and the only test they have to discover your Y-SNPs is the Big Y-700 test (regular price US $449, but they do have sales on this test from time to time). However, YSEQ does have [https://www.yseq.net/product_info.php?products_id=227072&osCsid=ff8e8a0b0438d0092cce73f75797197d BY71464] for purchase (US $3.00 for the DNA sample kit and US $19.00 for the Y-SNP test).
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